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nutcase
860 posts
89 months
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I don't think I would say it out loud in public, but like some people have already said- it's used in a jokey 'Ali G' type way.
No one can say it quite like Samuel L Jackson anyway.... with Eddie Murphy a close second LOL.
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planetdave
9,753 posts
90 months
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diesel ed said:
planetdave said:| Use of this and other, similar, words in public shows that you are willing to cross what is now seen as a cultural norm and hence you are beyond the pale. Standards change. Be smart and change too; adaptability is a signature of the intelligent. |
So, are you saying that the "liberals" would sign up as concentration camp guards if nazis became the norm? Or just that "liberals" lack intelligence?
And what is intelligent about following the herd? Especially if they are lemmings heading for a cliff?
And did everyone believe in Einstein's Theories before he showed how smart he was and proved his intelligence by accepting the standard beliefs? |
And if the moon was made of cheese we could all have a nice butty.
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diesel ed
499 posts
71 months
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stackmonkey said:Diesel ed,
Why would you want to insult someone who is black / gay / female / muslim / disabled etc just because they are? It 's wrong to do so , just as it would be to insult the sterotypical 'white middle class male' just for being so. |
Where did I say that I wanted "to insult someone who is black / gay / female / muslim / disabled etc just because they are?" However, I am quite happy to insult someone who thinks it's OK to physically attack someone who uses a word which they decide has broken the rules that they have made up. Or physically deprive them of their liberty for so doing. Or divert supposedly scarce police resources to prosecuting people who use a word which they decide has broken the rules that they have made up with a view to physically depriving them of their liberty for so doing. Whilst little old ladies and frail kids are physically attacked, killed even. Regardless of their, or their attackers, colour, religion, culture, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sex, orientation, politics, or whatever. Whatever happened to the law protecting citizens from harm and allowing them to live their lives in peace? It now prevents them from so doing, in any sense of the word.
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diesel ed
499 posts
71 months
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deeen said:diesel ed said:Let's see, we can't beat up people for being a nigger/ gay/ woman/ moslem/ fat/ crippled/ thick.
We can't even insult people by calling them nigger/ gay/ woman moslem/ fat/ crippled/ thick.
What can we do to let off steam?
Oh, I know, just go out and kill a male pensioner, or a schoolboy. So that's alright then. Did someone mention a caring sharing warm and wooly liberal "society"? |
How about finding a way of letting off steam that doesn't hurt other people?
Just going out for a burn... |
That's what I love about "liberals" - nothing! The PC Police like to think that people who don't share their precious cultural views are living in the stone age. I suppose that makes them better than us as they have advanced to the bronze age. One day they will suss out irony and really start to develop.
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diesel ed
499 posts
71 months
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planetdave said:| And if the moon was made of cheese we could all have a nice butty. |
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Balmoral Green
26,143 posts
85 months
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bryan35
1,635 posts
78 months
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I was always confused by this.
There is an acceptance in adopting words that were part of a particular regime (in this case 'nigger' and 'negro') in modern times as a term of endearment, but only to the people who were actually oppressed.
I believe the first real revelation of this was in tarantino's film 'pulp fiction' where the word 'nigger' is used consistantly in this way, with I think only 1 reference to the work 'negro'
I found this incredible at the time, but it's accepted now.
however, it seems only acceptable to use the work if you are infact black, and not white, which sort of implies that the acceptable useage is dependent on skin colour, which is, by definition racist.
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My personal view on society if that born trouble maker scum will use any platform to in some way justify their ways. I don't think that there ARE football hooligans or racists or the other plethora of discriminatory violence. They are thugs, plain and simple, and they choose the best bandwagon at the time.
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DJFish
2,854 posts
100 months
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ca092003 said:Do you use the n***** word?
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Sometimes, but I'd never say it to a black bloke as they would probably find it offensive(unless it was someone I knew well and I knew they wouldn't). Just like I'd never say 'rimjob' to a nun. It's all about timing, situation and context. Then again, I find it inapropriate to leave a bottle of vinegar and a salt grinder next to my fish tank in the kitchen in case the fish gets offended, maybe I'm just too sensitive sometimes. Peace out yo. >> Edited by DJFish on Wednesday 24th November 20:47 >> Edited by DJFish on Wednesday 24th November 20:48
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DeMolay
351 posts
79 months
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Pickled Piper said:Yawn. Here we go again.
The word nigger is offensive to black people as it was a derogatory term used by whites in the colonial slavery days. It was also used to reinforce negative racial stereotypes. It is still offensive to black people if used by a white person. Yes, it's literal meaning derives from the word black, and yes, it's OK for one black person to call another a nigger because typically it is not being used to subjagate or intentionally to offend.
Let me give you another example; Bitch.
It is offensive to women as it is a derogatory term used by men, often to reinforce negative stereotypes. It's literal meaning is a description of a female canine. Yes it's OK for one woman to call another a bitch as quite often it's done in a playful sense and not intentionally to subjagate or offend.
Yes, words can be offensive and insulting. Yes, common usage can be quite different from literal meaning. Yes, a word can be more or less offensive depending on who is using it and also where or when it is used.
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If I may say so; very well put. Some of the underlying attitudes on this thread have confirmed to me that this country remains deeply racist. Shame.
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iam
44 posts
70 months
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have we got rid of "Freedom of expression then?",if so I do not want "in" anymore!
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DeMolay
351 posts
79 months
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iam said:have we got rid of "Freedom of expression then?",if so I do not want "in" anymore!
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Your answer is as predictable as it is contemptable.
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8Pack
5,182 posts
77 months
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In a word: No, I don't use the word. Pity about Guy Gibson's dog "Nigger" though wasn't it? Run over has I recall from the film.  What about I called it "Blackie" then, that's a popular name?  Woof!
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towman
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76 months
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ca092003 said:Do you use the n***** word?
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Whats wrong with NUMPTY anyway? Whats that got to do with slavery?
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thepeoplespal
659 posts
114 months
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8Pack said:In a word: No, I don't use the word. Pity about Guy Gibson's dog "Nigger" though wasn't it? Run over has I recall from the film.
What about I called it "Blackie" then, that's a popular name? Woof! |
Where I lived as a youngster some 25 years ago there was dog called "Darkie" who was more or less our whole estates dog, if your mates didn'want to come out to play, there was always the dog to play with. I'm positive it wasn't in the slightest bit racist as Norn Iron had almost no ethnic minorities living there(generalising here) and I certainly wasn't aware of it. I know that it would be unacceptable to have the dog named that now, as people are now sensitised to the potential faux pas/offence it could now cause as there are now quite a few more people from different ethnic backgrounds living in Northern Ireland. I think eventually the word "nigger" will be rehabilitated very much in the mode of Samuel L Jackson (although personally I think we are talking decades here), but so long as it can be used as a term of hatred and offence or misconstrued as that, its probably best to steer clear of using it. Just my 2p
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8Pack
5,182 posts
77 months
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towman said:
ca092003 said:Do you use the n***** word?
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Whats wrong with NUMPTY anyway? Whats that got to do with slavery?
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Oh! God! it's NOT Nigella! Is it? Argh! 
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towman
14,938 posts
76 months
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8Pack said:
Oh! God! it's NOT Nigella! Is it? Argh! |
You dont do many crosswords then? six letters, first letter is N !
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8Pack
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77 months
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minimax
11,829 posts
93 months
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TonyToniTone said:Someone nutty rocker called me one at the works christmas party (some time ago) for no reason other than to impress his friends, I knocked him clean out and left.
Police came into work and took me to station and one understood that it was wrong whilst the other wound me up asking me things like why does that bother you.. etc
Didnt get charged got a verbal warning at work, nutty rocker got a written warning..
I always thought this guy had the needle or something and hey presto I found out that night what his problem was...
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 bet he avoids you now!
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safespeed
2,983 posts
111 months
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The PC police haven't half got this one wrong. By calling time on "the N word", but leaving such terms as frog, jock, paddy and yank, they are sending out the message that it's bad to be black, but we shouldn't mention it.
George Orwell tried to warn us about the dangers of trying to control thinking by altering the language. (The Newspeak Dictionary in 1984) He was double plus right.
If we want racial integration we have to learn to celebrate the equality across races AND the differences between races. Pretending we're all the same isn't going to work when we can see we're different.
The feminists made the same mistake. They made themselves more like men instead of becoming equal and celebrating the differences.
Equality and similarity are NOT the same thing!
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MilnerR
5,282 posts
95 months
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 Very well put safe speed. The habit of applying very narrow view points to large section of society is nothing new. Take people as you find them and treat them as you would like to be treated. When asked if i like french people i responded by saying i hadn't met them all yet!
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