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Deano211277
Original Poster
13 posts
25 months
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Hi all i`m wanting to build a car i can use on track and for the occasional sunday b-road blast, below is a list of the kits i like the look of anybody got any opnions or recomondations??
1) AGM WLR looks really nice thinking cossie power 2) Spire GTR again looks really good but worried about the ground clearance and bumps ripping the front splitter off etc. 4) Dax rush cossie power or bike engine 5) MK indy r bike engine 6) Anybody got any ideas for me??
Cheers Dean
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kylemrushall
1,500 posts
41 months
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Deano211277 said: Hi all i`m wanting to build a car i can use on track and for the occasional sunday b-road blast, below is a list of the kits i like the look of anybody got any opnions or recomondations??
1) AGM WLR looks really nice thinking cossie power 2) Spire GTR again looks really good but worried about the ground clearance and bumps ripping the front splitter off etc. 4) Dax rush cossie power or bike engine 5) MK indy r bike engine 6) Anybody got any ideas for me??
Cheers Dean Raw Fulcrum or Striker Adrenaline Murtaya would be my choice, as fast as you could want on road or track. Bike engined cars are great on track but imo not great on the road in either heavy traffic or for touring. Have you a budget in mind? as that will make a big difference on what you choose!
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Deano211277
Original Poster
13 posts
25 months
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kylemrushall said: Deano211277 said: Hi all i`m wanting to build a car i can use on track and for the occasional sunday b-road blast, below is a list of the kits i like the look of anybody got any opnions or recomondations??
1) AGM WLR looks really nice thinking cossie power 2) Spire GTR again looks really good but worried about the ground clearance and bumps ripping the front splitter off etc. 4) Dax rush cossie power or bike engine 5) MK indy r bike engine 6) Anybody got any ideas for me??
Cheers Dean Raw Fulcrum or Striker Adrenaline Murtaya would be my choice, as fast as you could want on road or track. Bike engined cars are great on track but imo not great on the road in either heavy traffic or for touring. Have you a budget in mind? as that will make a big difference on what you choose! Haven`t thought about the raw striker just had a look at there web site like the of it, think that will be another to add to the list of possibles was thinking around 10k mark to build one (is this about right) my idea was to buy componant packages as i went along but im getting the impression this may not be a good idea though???
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Chris71
14,807 posts
79 months
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Out of your suggestions I'd be tempted by the Spire GTR or (as someone else suggested) the Raw Fulcrum.
In some respects it might be a bit too civilised for a track car, but I'd thuroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car.
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kylemrushall
1,500 posts
41 months
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Chris71 said: Out of your suggestions I'd be tempted by the Spire GTR or (as someone else suggested) the Raw Fulcrum.
In some respects it might be a bit too civilised for a track car, but I'd thuroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Have you been in one?? a Murtaya that is
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Chris71
14,807 posts
79 months
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kylemrushall said: Chris71 said: Out of your suggestions I'd be tempted by the Spire GTR or (as someone else suggested) the Raw Fulcrum.
In some respects it might be a bit too civilised for a track car, but I'd thuroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Have you been in one?? a Murtaya that is http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/article.aspx?cp-doc...The idea was that four wheel drive and huge reserves of turbo'd torque allied to a civilised ride make the Murtaya a very good way to go quickly on the road. I'm sure they're ballistic on the track too, but if you don't need to worry about road car niceties then a load of other options open up which aren't really realistic if you're planning to commute in it or something.
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BoRED S2upid
6,697 posts
77 months
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If its just Sunday blast and Track use then I would be tempted by an MK INdy with big bike power very reasonably priced and look very simple to bolt together (Not a lot of car to put together) oh and simple to repair when you bin it into a tyre wall  Mutyra I would say is an everyday car rather than meeting your requirements, it certainyl looks the part.
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Lost my mojo
183 posts
62 months
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A sylva mojo or riot would be my thoughts. But I like to plug my car. Saying that I still look at Strikers and think maybe I should of gone for one of those instead.
Would you be tempted by buying pre built? Seen some bargain westys for below that price.
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MKnight702
341 posts
51 months
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How about a Sylva Riot? It won the Kit Car of the year award a couple of years ago, 300bhp/t running a new Ford Zetec SE engine or the R1ot running an R1 engine.
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antnicuk
241 posts
25 months
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what ever you get, bin the ocssies  and use a rotary, much more power, cheaper, nicer power curve and much lighter...... i love mine!
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Deano211277
Original Poster
13 posts
25 months
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 Thanks for the advice had a look on sylva and raws websites riot is something a bit different from what i have read lots of people rave about it something else for me to consider. rotary engine must be a good compromise between bike and car engine all those revs then happy to cruise to can see why you would use one  what about mac1 type 9r?? Is it best to buy the kit in one job lot or would i get away with buying bits as i go??
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Steve_D
6,808 posts
95 months
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Deano211277 said: ...Is it best to buy the kit in one job lot or would i get away with buying bits as i go?? This will depend on the manufacturer. You would be happy to assume that Westfield, Caterham or Ultima would still be there when you went back to get a body having taken 9 months to prepare the chassis. The Acme road-runner car company would perhaps not instil the same level of confidence. Steve
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Ferg
10,168 posts
94 months
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Chris71 said: ....I'd thoroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Each to their own, of course, but I just wish it wasn't so pig-ugly. Another case of kit manufacturers ignoring the importance of looks??  ITALO!!! RESTYLE!!!!
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fuzzymonkey
79 posts
62 months
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Ferg said: Each to their own, of course, but I just wish it wasn't so pig-ugly. Another case of kit manufacturers ignoring the importance of looks??  ITALO!!! RESTYLE!!!! Indeed! If they sorted the chav front lights then they would be well on their way to making it look nicer.
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kylemrushall
1,500 posts
41 months
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Ferg said: Chris71 said: ....I'd thoroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Each to their own, of course, but I just wish it wasn't so pig-ugly. Another case of kit manufacturers ignoring the importance of looks??  ITALO!!! RESTYLE!!!! great engine tho.... not as good a k series tho
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Chris71
14,807 posts
79 months
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Ferg said: Chris71 said: ....I'd thoroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Each to their own, of course, but I just wish it wasn't so pig-ugly. Another case of kit manufacturers ignoring the importance of looks??  ITALO!!! RESTYLE!!!! Like you say, each to their own, but I actually quite like the look of them. It's pretty conventional in silhouette and the light clusters and so on which maybe look a touch 'maxed' at first glance fit in with its Japanese origins. It doesn't have the sheer visual impact of some kits, but I think it's a very cohesive overall package (visually) and the chassis more than makes up for it.
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kylemrushall
1,500 posts
41 months
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Chris71 said: Ferg said: Chris71 said: ....I'd thoroughly recommend the Murtaya as a fast road car. Each to their own, of course, but I just wish it wasn't so pig-ugly. Another case of kit manufacturers ignoring the importance of looks??  ITALO!!! RESTYLE!!!! Like you say, each to their own, but I actually quite like the look of them. It's pretty conventional in silhouette and the light clusters and so on which maybe look a touch 'maxed' at first glance fit in with its Japanese origins. It doesn't have the sheer visual impact of some kits, but I think it's a very cohesive overall package (visually) and the chassis more than makes up for it. I agree, the car imo is the best thing to come on the Kit car scene for a long time. Something different instead of Cobras, 7's and Elise wannabees. Lets remember it has been built,designed and manufactured by a small concern not a huge manufacturer 
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Ferg
10,168 posts
94 months
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kylemrushall said: Something different instead of Cobras, 7's and Elise wannabees. Lets remember it has been built,designed and manufactured by a small concern not a huge manufacturer  Let's not forget that the Elise is a GTM wannabe.....
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Ferg
10,168 posts
94 months
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Chris71 said: ...cohesive... I think that's perhaps a word that can't be applied to the styling, Chris. The front is just out of proportion to the neat rear. It reminds me of that hideous 'Evolution' bonnet on the Ginetta based car. Again, just too out of proportion to the rear. I worry that it's like that to house the light units, which would be a shame. Don't get me wrong, though, I love the concept and the performance.... 
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Chris71
14,807 posts
79 months
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Ferg said: Chris71 said: ...cohesive... I think that's perhaps a word that can't be applied to the styling, Chris. The front is just out of proportion to the neat rear. It reminds me of that hideous 'Evolution' bonnet on the Ginetta based car. Again, just too out of proportion to the rear. I worry that it's like that to house the light units, which would be a shame. Don't get me wrong, though, I love the concept and the performance....  Fair play...  It's not my favourite car design, but I've always found it pretty innoffensive. I think the styling works pretty well overall, but the beauty of the kit car industry is the variety of alternatives out there - at least visually - I do think it offers something pretty unique mechanically.
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